No I.D.: Sometimes it’s not about advice. What are we being so precious about?
Jlin: Maybe the fact that I do create from a state of unhappiness.
No I.D.: You’ve got to work on getting out of there.
Jlin: Not really. To me, that’s not even a real answer.
No I.D.: It’s like fighting to stay out of a mansion, just to prove that you can build a treehouse.
Jlin: It’s like putting a message in a bottle – I’ve no idea where it’ll end up.
No I.D.: You might end it all as a sane human being.
Jlin: [Pause] I can’t tell you how easy that is.
No I.D.: That’s true. That’s freedom.
Jlin: It wouldn’t deter me.
No I.D.: Yeah, we kept it quiet.
Jlin: Right? Impact is important.
No I.D.: It’s super particular. All of these terms are outdated but we’re still wrestling with them.
Jlin: The distance between us is something I enjoy.
No I.D.: We caught an understanding.